Stand up Freezer won't work after being fully defrosted.


Stand up Freezer won't work after being fully defrosted.

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Older whirlpool EV160FXK freezer from around the 1990's.

Always worked good but needed a good defrosting now and then.
Last time it needed defrosting was about 5 years ago. This time when it was all frozen over and starting to accumulate inches of snow on the shelves, I slid it out of the garage and just left it open on the driveway for about 36 hours to melt and drain. Plugged it back in, and it  sort of sounded like it was struggling to get cold, but about 24 hours later it seemed very cold. I went to put a bottle of water in it about 12 hours after I last checked, to make sure it could freeze water, but it was completely warm, so now I unplugged it afraid something could burn out or something. It was on dial setting 3 or 4 always out of 7, so I plugged it back in on 7 for some hours and tapped on the analog dial in case it would fix a bad connection, but it's not getting cold at all. 


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was the compressor running when it was on last?





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I haven't messed with the freezer since making this thread 10 days ago.

Today, I plugged it back in and put the dial on 2 out of 7 thinking a slow pace might be gentler on the components. The compressor IS running, IS a bit clicky/rattly but I think it's always been like that. Within about 3 minutes of plugging it in, all the shelves have metal coils running through them and the lower shelf was getting cold and frosty. I closed the freezer and came back an hour later and it's not cold at all anymore. I put dial to 7 but what I think happened is something was at end of its lifespan and, fully defrosting the freezer slowly by leaving it on the driveway instead of using a heatgun and scraping caused the freezer to get fully warm - and then had to work non stop to get to freezing once plugged back in and that's when something broke, I guess. VS maybe maybe if used a heat gun and buckets and towels it might not have lost all its coldness and might have bounced back safer.
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I think you are probably looking at a bad relay and/or overload for the compressor.. if it gets cold that fast then turns warm the compressor sounds like it is just kicking out.. it could be a bad compressor but then again it could be the components that start and keep the compressor running. Because of the age I am not finding these in stock anywhere but you could just use a universal compressor/relay device in place of.. I have installed thousands and thousands of these back in my service and repair days with about a 80% success rate.. if you want to give it a try it might pay off 
https://www.appliancezone.com/rco410-refrigerator-compressor-3-in-1-start-kit/





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the compressor IS running and it's not getting cold. I had it plugged in for a few more hours, checked it was warm and compressor stays running, So the unit should be scrapped I guess?
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Most likely you would be looking at an expensive repair bill if it is something that is repairable.. there would not be an easy fix, the cooling issue is internal failing compressor, loss of freon, etc.. likely would cost almost as much as a new freezer





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I understand it may take 24 hours to get fully cold, but it's turning on for only maybe a half hour or so sometimes and then turns off for several hours and never gets cold again. I haven't left it plugged in a full 24 hours because I'm afraid to leave it in case it could somehow cause a fire or something.

Anyway, before replacing this freezer, I might try replacing the $15 universal thermostat. Remember, the compressor IS running though, I can hear and touch it and feel it running. It stays running even for hours without making the freezer colder though, so does this mean replacing the thermostat could even fix it?

Also someone suggesting the following paragraph and $18 part, but I can't find anything on this freezer that resembles that part, and there's no panels to remove or hidden areas - everything/wires are just snaked through the side wall if need be.

"I think you are probably looking at a bad relay and/or overload for the compressor.. if it gets cold that fast then turns warm the compressor sounds like it is just kicking out.. it could be a bad compressor but then again it could be the components that start and keep the compressor running. Because of the age I am not finding these in stock anywhere but you could just use a universal compressor/relay device in place of.. I have installed thousands and thousands of these back in my service and repair days with about a 80% success rate.. if you want to give it a try it might pay off "

https://www.appliancezone.com/rco410-refrigerator-compressor-3-in-1-start-kit/


I tried pulling the thermostat out but the capillary tube seems to be secured to something but I can't find where. And this older freezer thermostat has prongs that are different from all the universal types I've seen , I don't think I want to cut the prongs off the wires and try and fix them to a universal thermostat just in case something goes wrong with that.


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well, I think it may have been resolved simply by leaving it plugged in for at least a day as someone suggested.
previously I was leaving it plugged in like 6-8 hours and it would get cold and frosty but then get fully warm. I was afraid to leave it unattended plugged in for long (afraid it could spark or something worse or something IDK), but then I left it plugged in at least a day and left cups of water in it. .The cups of water are frozen solid a couple days later and it's been good for at least a week so I'm going to restock it and hopefully it's all good. Thanks. Next time I'll defrost sooner and use a heat gun to speed up the process so maybe the compressor doesn't have to work so hard to get it back to freezing.

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Well I hope this issue is resolved. A compressor issue and a temp control issue can have the same symptoms.. it's hard to say without actually looking at the appliance when it is not working as it should. Hopefully it was just the temp control not responding or not telling the compressor to come back on.. hopefully you are all set and hopefully you get some more years out of it!
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